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#1

Meeting Agenda (May 4, 2018)

  • Introduction – 5 min
  • Problem Statement (Hamed) – 15 min
  • Discussion – 20 min
  • Future work planning – 20 min

http://www.ohdsi.org/web/wiki/doku.php?id=projects:workgroups:atc

Mapping ATC to Rxnorm
Mapping RxNorm standard concepts to ATC 4th level
Adding Defined Daily Dose (DDD) from WHO
#2

Meeting Minutes (May 4, 2018)

Attendees:
Robert Carroll, Hamed Abedtash, Maxim Moinat, Christian Reich, Soo Yeon Cho, Qi Yang

Discussions:

  • The ultimate goal is to provide Vocabulary WG with a “cookbook” on the best practice to map drug source codes to standard concepts, and vice versa. It will cover both US and outside of US codes.
  • Step-by-step approach: First fix the mapping between RxNorm/RxNorm Extension concepts to ATC classes, then continue with mapping drug source codes to RxNorm/RxNorm Exten.
  • Some EHR in Europe use ATC 5th level to present drug ingredient, but drug strength, dosage form and other data values need to be aggregated for better mapping.
  • To map source codes to ATC, we need to take into accounts these data elements of the drug product: Ingredient name, Site of action, Route of administration, Indication, Dosage forms (eg, parenteral, oral, rectal, nasal, …), Quantity of active ingredient, Source of molecule

Tasks:

  • Hamed (and any other volunteers): Present previous experience with ATC mapping

Follow-ups:

  • None
#3

Meeting Agenda (May 18, 2018)

Understand ATC classification (Hamed) - 20 min
Previous experience (Hamed) - 10 min
Discussion – 20 min
Future work planning – 10 min

Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow!

Hamed

#4

Today 12:30 EST?

#5

Yes

#6

ATC_ambigous.xlsx (65.9 KB)

here is a file when ATC with the same names have different meaning according to their higher level concepts

#7

Meeting Agenda (June 1, 2018)

  • Korean drug code system (Soo-Yeon) – 20 min
  • Discussion – 20 min
  • Future work planning – 20 min

Looking forward to talking to you all.

#8

Meeting Minutes (June 1, 2018)

Attendees:
Hamed Abedtash, Soo Yeon Cho, Dmitry, Christian Reich

Discussions:

  • Soo presented the on-going project to map Korean drugs to ATC.
  • Need to populate two tables to do the mapping: Standard working spreadsheet (WS) and ATC WS. Then, we can easily join them by active ingredient, ROA, dose form, etc to get the correct crosswalk.
  • Hamed is preparing the ATC WS; will be ready for the next meeting.

Tasks:

  • Hamed will send ATC working sheet to Dmitry.
  • Dmitry will send the list of ATC changes since 20180205 version.
#9

Meeting Agenda (June 15, 2018)

  • Progress report by Hamed
  • Discussion

Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow at 12:30pm.

#10

Meeting Minutes (June 15, 2018)

Attendees:
Hamed Abedtash, Qi Yang, Christian Reich, Soo Yeon Cho, Maxim Moniat, Mustafa Ascha

Discussions:

  • Hamed presented the proposal to collect metadata on ATC classes.
  • Need to prioritize ATC classes for capturing metadata on them.

Tasks:

  • Dima: Try out grabber if it can help us get ATC metadata from the website faster.
  • Hamed and Soo: Continue collecting metadata for ATC classes.
#11

Meeting Agenda (June 29, 2018)

  • Progress report by Hamed
  • Discussion

Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow at 12:30pm.

#12

Meeting Minutes (June 29, 2018)

Attendees:
Hamed Abedtash, Qi Yang, Soo Yeon Cho, Dmitry, Robert Carroll

Discussions:

  • Hamed presented the text processing workflow to capture metadata about ATC classes from ATC webpages.
  • Dima presented the results of DDD captured from ATC website.

Tasks:

  • Hamed will continue working on capturing metadata on ATC classes.
  • A review committee will review the results later.
#13

NO MEETING on July 13th. We will discuss the constraints and principles of ATC classes captured from WHO website next time.

#14

Meeting Agenda (July 27, 2018)

  • Progress report by Hamed
  • Discussion

Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow at 12:30pm.

#15

Meeting Agenda (August 10, 2018)

  • Progress report by Hamed
  • Review mappings so far
  • Task assignment
  • Discussion

Looking forward to talking to you all on Friday at 12:30pm ET.

#16

Meeting Minutes (August 10, 2018)

Attendees:
Hamed Abedtash, Soo Yeon Cho, Dmytry, Anna Ostropolets

Discussions:

  • Need to finalize list of allowed ingredients (inclusions and exclusions) in each class
  • DDDs may help in some cases find the correct class, eg, finasteride
  • Hamed: List of allowed route of administration in each class is ready. Hamed will send the list to Soo to review.
  • Anna: We have done some work on ATC mapping. The group may continue to work with her to optimize the pipeline.
  • Hamed: We need to create separate lists for included/excluded ingredients, dose forms, indications, etc. that will make the mapping process easier and sustainable for future iterations.

Tasks:

  • Hamed creates the list of allowed indications.
  • Soo will review allowed ROA table.
  • Anna will integrate ROA, and will send Hamed the list of active ingredients of ATC classes along with a short draft of mapping steps.
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#17

Meeting Agenda (September 7, 2018)

  • Progress report by Hamed
  • Task assignment
  • Discussion

Looking forward to talking to you all on Friday at 12:30pm ET.

#18

@abedtash_hamed:

Let’s try to ratify the current mapping. It still doesn’t do a good job on the combinations, the different indications and dose. Anna and I are looking at it. We will review tomorrow what we find. 100% better than nothing (what we have now). The better is the enemy of the good.

#19

Can someone post any brief minutes of the Sep 7th meeting. (and any plans for future meetings?)

#20

@Vojtech_Huser We had a change in today’s meeting. We are meeting 1-2 pm ET. I’ll post the minute shortly as well.

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